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The 10th Anniversary, but we should remember everyday

on September 11, 2011

In a way, I don’t know why give such significance to the 10th Anniversary of 9-11-01, when we should never forget what happened on that day, but it is good to take the time to remember in a special way.

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41 responses to “The 10th Anniversary, but we should remember everyday

  1. soapster says:

    Less reflection on "what" and more reflection on "why".Besides, the "what" isn't even entirely answerable.

  2. I can only say that I will never forget that day and will never forgive those that did it.

  3. Beth says:

    Let me guess, Soap, if Ron Paul was President with his isolationism there would never be a 9-11.As to not reflecting on the "what", that is ridiculous thinking, that is what a day of rebembrance is all about.

  4. May the innocent victims that were brutally killed that day be resting in Heaven while the people that carried out, planned, or in any way had a part in these murderous, despicable acts, be still and forever more BURNING in Hell! May the passing of 10 years have eased the grief of those left behind. May God bless them and watch over them, and may He bless the U.S.A.

  5. soapster says:

    Is that what you've reduced yourself to Beth? Petty and childish attacks are no way to have an adult conversation.What's more, there's a stark difference between isolationism and non-intervention. You do well to learn it.I don't much care whether you like Ron Paul or not. I didn't bring him up herein you did.

  6. Ron Paul is like a used cake of soap. Time to be thrown out.

  7. soapster says:

    Just like the wisdom of the founders and the Constitution that you all are so want to pay lip service to huh Mal? You "conservatives" haven't learned a thing have you?

  8. Z-man says:

    There's something about round numbers Beth. When I did my 1,000 blogpost I felt I reached a milestone, that it was somehow special. You're right though and for the survivors everyday is 9/11.

  9. Beth says:

    Wow, is Average American a sight for sore eyes! Glad to have you back, man!Soapie, 9-11 is a day of remembrance, not a day to analyze "why" it happened. And I heard that Ron Paul used 9-11 to put at his website commentary that echoed Osama bin Laden, saying why we were to blame for it. That is shameful! Call my dislike of Ron Paul childish, but your blind love of the guy annoys me.

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  12. soapster says:

    @Beth, what is shameful to me is to pay lip service to the founding fathers and the Constitution as you do while ignoring and castigating the very candidate who has sided with them and it consistently for 30+ years.Orwell said it best: "Ignorance is strength."It takes alot for an individual or a country to admit they were wrong. It is for this reason that history seemingly repeats itself.As for my "blind love" of Ron Paul, I could respond by saying it's probably little different than your affection for Glenn Beck. However I'm not going to run with that. I think your dislike for Ron Paul probably has less to do with Ron Paul than it has to do with an inability for you to come to terms with truth and the reality that he espouses and which run counter to much of the propaganda you've been hearing/reading over the years. Again, ignorance is bliss.As I've said countless times, the movement isn't about Ron Paul. It isn't about politics. It transcends all of that. And, for as much as you and many of the other "conservative" bloggers pay lip service to smaller government, personal responsibility, fiscal conservatism, the Constitution, and any other such things, we are actively engaging individuals from across political, cultural, ethnic, spectrums each and every single day. We are actually building a voluntary coalition of communities that have self determination and self reliance and fortitude as we've been doing for 4 years now. Contrary to belief, I'm not on some high horse mind you. If I were I'd likely be blogging about it incessantly. Of course I'm not.So, while you and Mal may dislike him or call him a kook or a loon, let me just say that this movement is truly representative of what you all portend to support.Are you still sending your kids to the state run schools? Hmmm….that's too bad. We've actually had dozens of people take their kids out of the state run schools and build homeschooling networks. Still struggling to stretch that dollar at the grocery store? Hmm…we've educated people and started meetup groups about Austrian economics and encouraged people to trade and barter for goods and services while learning to both grow and can their own food.Still love and laud that 2nd Amendment? Firearms instructors in our MN for Liberty network have had 275 people get trained in firearms and acquire their carry permit in the state of Minnesota.Any idea the importance of bees to our ecosystem? We've gone from 3 beekeepers 4 years ago to 13 beekeepers in our network today. These are the things we've been doing over the past 4 years. Ron Paul merely helped bring it together. Whether he wins or not doesn't matter. Are you going to try and convince me any other Republican candidate can facilitate this sort of movement? Hardly.Liberty manifests itself in many many ways.

  13. Z-man says:

    Welcome back Joe! Now if we can only hear from Danny.

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  15. Dave Miller says:

    Well Mal, that's a good question. At least Soap and Paul are proposing an idea that is in fact different from our longstanding policy.Whether it is any good, or might even work is till to be seen. But it is a far cry better than the folks who sit on the sidelines and just carp and complain.If you agree that what we are doing is not working, what ideas do you have/Clearly the old axiom is true… to continue to do the same thing and expect different results, is idiotic.

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  21. First he blamed George Bush,and I didn't say anything because I wasn’t exactly very happy with Bush myself. Then he blamed the wealthy people, you know the kind, the ones who make over $200. 000 a year and then he blamed the people who owned private Jets and still I didn't speak up,Because I wasn't one of them, I wasn’t wealthy, and I didn’t own a private Jet..Then he blamed the Corporations, the business owners, the CEO’s etc, etc, etc. And still I didn't speak up, I still let him spew his Liberal garbage as he does on those disgusting Obama ass-kissing, Socialist loving blogs. And then he blamed the Business Owners who didn’t want to hire any new employees because of Obama’s HealthCare plan. Still I didn’t speak up because I didn't own a business.Then he blamed the Wall street executives who came home at the end of the year with those big bonuses, ,and I didn't speak up, because after the Wall Street collapse , I sold all my stocks and anyway I didn't work on Wall Street.And then he blamed Congress for debt, and the earthquake in Japan, and Congress for their lack to compromise with Obama, and Reagan for the Iran-Contra operation. And Bush for leaving this economy is in such “poor” condition that Obama inherited. Then he blamed me, because I dared to voice my American right to state my opinion on Ron Paul. It’s really funny how Obama's intentions are always good, but everyone on the right is always to blame. And don’t ever dare to equate Obama with socialism, or he’ll blame you for being a racist.And right there and then I knew it had to be Dave Miller. The darling of the Progressives, the Blame King of the left.

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  27. Beth says:

    Thanks for moving the way off topic discussion to private e-mails, I don't know how it goes from remembering thousands who died because of the evil acts of people to the war on drugs! Now, I must remove the offending comments…

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  29. soapster says:

    Offending to whom? Seriously…conversations divert and flow. God forbid it should shatter your preconcieved notions and world view.

  30. My apologies to you Beth, for being SUCKERED into that conversation. I am genuinely sorry.

  31. Beth says:

    I did not feel the conversation was appropriate in a 9-11 remembrance posting.

  32. soapster says:

    There's no better way to remember the victims of 9/11 than to continue to search for answers and continue to exercise your dwindling rights.Of course that would require some effort, some action. Why do that when you can just sit and reflect and say a prayer?Never thought you'd invoke the memory hole. Pretty Orwellian really.

  33. soapster, I think that Beth deserves a bit more respect.

  34. soapster says:

    Respect is earned not demanded. You certainly do not earn the respect of your readers when you take away their voice by throwing their commentary down the memory hole.In all the time I've been blogging I've never deleted a single comment with the exception being some spam commentary that was written in Chinese (I know it was spam too because I ran it through translator).

  35. Z-man says:

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  36. Z-man says:

    My only problem is if we don't agree with Ron Paul on everything then we're not true conservatives. Since when did Ron Paul become the final arbiter on all things?

  37. Beth says:

    The deleted comments had nothing to do with the posting, as as administrator of this blog, I have the right to delete what I consider unnecessary comments.If you wish to discuss the virtues of legalizing drugs, you have your own blog where you are free to do so (see, you do have a voice that can be heard, for those who care.)

  38. soapster says:

    Oh you're conservatives alright Z. Conservatives of what is the $64 trillion question. Naturally, I have my suspicions.

  39. Why don't you knock it off and take a cold shower. Beth is not the enemy here.. If you want to give a lesson on Conservatism, give it somewhere else.

  40. Mr. AOW and I attended a small memorial service. Dick Thornburgh was the keynote speaker. The speech wasn't politically correct.Yesterday, I stopped by the site again and chose two carnations from the memorial wreath placed at the service. I placed one under the name of the man to whom I gave a tribute at my site (Glick) and brought the other carnation home.

  41. BB-Idaho says:

    I watched the events of 9-11 unfold live back that year. We closed process lines so staffcould gather in the cafeteria andwatch. Last week, MSNBC replayedthe original with the breaking news coming in and the reportersspeculating. Horrifying…andstayed glued to it once again…

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